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perry4711

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Post Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:14 am

Linking intranet Serviio server to remote mediabrowser

Hi,

i'm playing with the setup a while and i wonder if there is a possibility to add a online ressource which is a remote serviio server (with licence of course) ?

I sthere a way to link in such a ressoruce ?

Thx !
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atc98092

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Post Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:36 pm

Re: Linking intranet Serviio server to remote mediabrowser

You can access MediaBrowser from the Internet now. No need for a remote player. You need to open port 23424 in your firewall and forward it to your Serviio computer.

However, you also need to know how to reach your MediaBrowser from the Internet. This means you need to know your public IP address or have a public domain name. I use a free dynamic DNS service from DNSEXIT.com, but there are others. If you have a static IP address, you only need to know it.

Once that's done, then you access your MediaBrowser from any Internet connected computer by pointing the browser to http://your_IP_addess_or_URL:23424/mediabrowser. Login and watch away.

One more caveat: you need your uplink speed to be high enough to support your desired quality. Must people have a far slower uplink speed than downlink. I have 5 Mbps uplink (50 down), and that's marginal for DVD quality, and woefully inadequate for HD video. Remember that MediaBrowser has a quality selector, so you can set it lower if necessary.
Dan

LG NANO85 4K TV, Samsung JU7100 4K TV, Sony BDP-S3500, Sharp 4K Roku TV, Insignia Roku TV, Roku Ultra, Premiere and Stick, Nvidia Shield, Yamaha RX-V583 AVR.
Primary server: AMD Ryzen 5 5600GT, 32 gig ram, Windows 11 Pro, 22 TB hard drive space | Test server: Intel i5-6400, 16 gig ram, Windows 10 Pro

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perry4711

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Post Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:01 pm

Re: Linking intranet Serviio server to remote mediabrowser

Thx, but i'm aware of that.

My intention in detail is to have a server running e.g. in the cloud.
I do have several smart TVs here beeing able to connect to my serviio machine running in intranet.

idea is to use my intranet serviio as some sort of proxy to the internet serviio - makes sense ?

this would be easy if a can add a "remote srviio machine" as online ressource.
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atc98092

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Post Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:17 pm

Re: Linking intranet Serviio server to remote mediabrowser

I fail to see any benefit of having your media out in "the cloud", except for perhaps backup purposes. Because of the amount of storage space necessary to store your media (particularly HD videos), the cost could be significant. Unless of course you have free access to such a server.

You can certainly run Serviio on a cloud server, as long as it's Windows, Mac or Linux based. Depending on how the server itself connects to the Internet you may need some sort of firewall configuration to access both MediaBrowser and the console from the Internet. Also, the console is not password protected, so it's not advisable to make it accessible from the Internet. There are ways around that with a properly configured proxy server.

As far as your internal devices accessing the remote Serviio, I'm unsure of any way to connect one Serviio box to another in the manner you are thinking. Yes, if there was a function to access a remote server that would be the way to do so. But I don't think that's possible at this time. My personal opinion, it's likely not worth the developer's time to add since it would have such limited appeal. I understand your desire, but I just don't think it would become very popular.

Remember that DLNA functionality is designed for internal networks, and the protocol does not travel across the Internet.
Dan

LG NANO85 4K TV, Samsung JU7100 4K TV, Sony BDP-S3500, Sharp 4K Roku TV, Insignia Roku TV, Roku Ultra, Premiere and Stick, Nvidia Shield, Yamaha RX-V583 AVR.
Primary server: AMD Ryzen 5 5600GT, 32 gig ram, Windows 11 Pro, 22 TB hard drive space | Test server: Intel i5-6400, 16 gig ram, Windows 10 Pro

HOWTO: Enable debug logging HOWTO: Identify media file contents
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perry4711

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Post Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:12 am

Re: Linking intranet Serviio server to remote mediabrowser

well, i think a Cloud Service is something which will be quite common in the future.
in Business lots of Services are beeing layed off to the Cloud already.

this is something which will happen in private "Business" as well.

Internet links for private households are getting faster and faster.

there are several aspects of a Internet Server, which simply allowes me to watch my favourites series (recorded from TV and uploaded automatically) wherever i am, without beeing limited by my slow uplink Speed.

my Setup is a local Server with several terrabytes, the newest records are always mirrowed to the Cloud Server. so data is redundant, but just because for the case i want to use it when traveling. so the idea is to have all the data sent to the Cloud Server.

well, yes, the cossts would be a problem today (i use this Server for free) but i am very sure the prices (especially for storage) will drop and lots of customers might think of having their own Server in the Cloud.

and btw, what about sharing my movie database with friends. simply pass out you your Connection Details and they can link their local serviio Installation with the remote one. a giant movie database (Internet of movies) might come up - i dont want to discuss if this is legal, but if used in a Group of friends - ...

so i do see some potential here, but if it is not doable, i can live with my redundant data as well - why bother...
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Post Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:06 pm

Re: Linking intranet Serviio server to remote mediabrowser

You have some logical reasons. As I said before, the ability to run Serviio on a cloud server is going to depend on the server itself, and what sort of access you have to it.

Most cloud storage is just that: storage. They don't allow you to run applications. If you have a cloud service that allows you to run applications, then Serviio could of course run on it. However, remember that Serviio can require very little PC power, or a great deal. It all depends on if it needs to transcode. Just streaming a file takes very little power, but throw transcoding in there and things change. Your cloud provider may not allow you to use that much of the hardware power. Most cloud servers are actually virtual machines, not stand alone hardware, so giving you more power makes less available for the other VMs on the same hardware.

And then there's the matter of accessing the media itself. Since a local Serviio box can't access the remote Serviio box, the only way to get to your cloud media is via the Serviio mediabrowser. Very few players have a web browser to access the Internet (mostly just smart TVs). And of course MediaBrowser requires transcoding the files.

Not trying to throw water on your idea. Just hoping to explain some of the issues involved. It's an interesting idea, but I don't know how well it might work at the present time.
Dan

LG NANO85 4K TV, Samsung JU7100 4K TV, Sony BDP-S3500, Sharp 4K Roku TV, Insignia Roku TV, Roku Ultra, Premiere and Stick, Nvidia Shield, Yamaha RX-V583 AVR.
Primary server: AMD Ryzen 5 5600GT, 32 gig ram, Windows 11 Pro, 22 TB hard drive space | Test server: Intel i5-6400, 16 gig ram, Windows 10 Pro

HOWTO: Enable debug logging HOWTO: Identify media file contents
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perry4711

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Post Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:41 pm

Re: Linking intranet Serviio server to remote mediabrowser

sure.

i'm an engineer at a pretty large Cloud Provider, dealing with operating Systems for 30 years now - so i'm very familiar in that area.

i was just wondering that serviio allowes various different online sources, but not it's own. that's why i asked if it is possible at all.

take care.

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