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Serviio 1.0 Media Browser (a couple of observations)...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:01 pm
by Christopher_Povey
Tried it out on my HTC OneX, using the Dolphin Browser HD 8.6.1

The Dolphin Browser opened the web page but there was no text or thumb pictures displayed so I switched to the stock ICS Android browser.

Page displayed correctly ( could navigate to a show), however the last played markers were all missing.

When I tried to play a video I got an error that I had no Flash installed and a link was provided for version 9. My phone has version 11 installed so I am not sure what is going on there. In addition Adobe are pulling Flash from all mobile devices from Android Jelly Bean and Apple products. I think the next update for Serviio Media Browser should be to drop Flash and implement some kind of HTML 5 player?

Tried it out on Transformer TF201 (Android ICS):

Stock browser displayed correctly ( could navigate to a show), however the last played markers were all missing until I played a video (then it was marked as played).

Video started and played full screen (which was a little odd as it is the same version of Flash as my OneX, same OS, and the same processor!)

Edit: Just fired up the Sony Blu-ray Player. Looks like all the "last played" data was wiped! :( So this is not a problem with MediaBrowser. Just got to remember where I got to now! :)

Re: Serviio 1.0 Media Browser (a couple of observations)...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:07 pm
by zip
Unfortunately HTML5 is still not defined and will probably not play video in mpegts container (needed for remuxing). MediaBrowser is primarily targeted for desktop PCs, where Flash is still strong - for mobile devices you would be better off with apps, like ServiiGo.

Re: Serviio 1.0 Media Browser (a couple of observations)...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:10 pm
by Christopher_Povey
zip wrote:Unfortunately HTML5 is still not defined and will probably not play video in mpegts container (needed for remuxing). MediaBrowser is primarily targeted for desktop PCs, where Flash is still strong - for mobile devices you would be better off with apps, like ServiiGo.


Okay. I'll take a look at ServiiGo. It's not a big issue on the TF201 as ASUS included a DLNA player anyway.

Thanks.

Re: Serviio 1.0 Media Browser (a couple of observations)...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:16 pm
by will
ServiiGo should hopefully meet your needs, if you have any feedback after trying it please let me know.

Re: Serviio 1.0 Media Browser (a couple of observations)...

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:45 am
by Karnith
What about this

http://videojs.com/

I plan to play a bit and see if I can use this to produce a way to have playback universal based on device profile. Tversity and a few others do it, it can't be that hard (especially since I did similar in SharePoint cause the video playback there sucks). Correct me if I'm wrong, but in theory all I would need to do is get device type on browser load, send this to serviio to be matched with the correct device profile, then transcode and stream back to the device (a bit oversimplified, but this should work).

Re: Serviio 1.0 Media Browser (a couple of observations)...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:36 pm
by patters
The formats which that player supports (MP4, WebM, Ogg) cannot support live streaming - so it cannot work with transcoded or remuxed content which is a pretty large requirement for Serviio. If only it supported mpegts...

Re: Serviio 1.0 Media Browser (a couple of observations)...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:39 am
by Karnith
MP4 is an html5 compatible streaming container. I currently use ffmpeg for transcoding to mp4 and iis smooth streaming in my sharepoint environment to stream videos and live feeds to a SharePoint webpart that supports vbr. If I were using windows at home for my http steaming from serviio, I could develop a windows web service for this in no time. The complication is on Linux boxes. I haven't tried creating a web service in Linux before and would need to research this a bit.

http://www.longtailvideo.com/html5

It looks like Firefox will be jumping on the band wagon to support mp4, so almost all browsers will support mp4 html5 streaming.

Re: Serviio 1.0 Media Browser (a couple of observations)...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:01 am
by Karnith

Re: Serviio 1.0 Media Browser (a couple of observations)...

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:03 pm
by zip
Karnith wrote:MP4 is an html5 compatible streaming container. I currently use ffmpeg for transcoding to mp4 and iis smooth streaming in my sharepoint environment to stream videos and live feeds to a SharePoint webpart that supports vbr. If I were using windows at home for my http steaming from serviio, I could develop a windows web service for this in no time. The complication is on Linux boxes. I haven't tried creating a web service in Linux before and would need to research this a bit.

http://www.longtailvideo.com/html5

It looks like Firefox will be jumping on the band wagon to support mp4, so almost all browsers will support mp4 html5 streaming.

I assume you do the ffmpeg conversion offline, store the mp4 file and then stream - that is fine, but not what Serviio needs. It requires transcoding on-the-fly and MP4 uses atoms to store media information, some of which are written to the beginning of the file after the whole file has been created.